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Santorum’s pastor says Protestants not “proper” Christians, blasts creationists | American Vision News

Santorum’s pastor says Protestants not “proper” Christians, blasts creationists | American Vision News

Santorum’s pastor says Protestants not “proper” Christians, blasts creationists

by Joel McDurmon on Jan 1, 2012

With statements nearly as out of the mainstream of American Evangelicalism as Obama’s former pastor, Jeremiah Wright, who infamously shouted “God d*mn America,” Rick Santorum’s head-pastor should have nearly as much explaining to do.

Santorum, a devout Roman Catholic, submits to the spiritual oversight of Pope Benedict XVI, the alleged “Vicar of Christ” Himself. And the Vatican leader has been less than kind to Evangelicals:

In 2007, he famously said that Protestants cannot be considered “proper” Christians, because they do not submit to his grace—the Pope: He claimed that

the branches of Christianity formed after the split with Rome at the Reformation could not be called churches “in the proper sense” because they broke with a succession of popes who dated back to St Peter.

He continued on to argue that the Roman Catholic Church is the only “true church of Christ.”

In an even more out of touch pontification, Santorum’s spiritual Father stated that creationists’ opposition to evolution is an “absurdity,” and argues, “there is much scientific proof in favor of evolution.”

The Pope added that evolution “appears as a reality that we must see and which enriches our understanding of life and being as such.”

He also repeated the UN’s global warming propaganda, claiming the earth is talking to us, therefore “obedience to the voice of the Earth is more important for our future happiness … than the desires of the moment. Our Earth is talking to us and we must listen to it and decipher its message if we want to survive.”

Since when do Christian leaders “obey” the Earth’s word instead of God’s?

Perhaps even more troubling is the Roman Catholic Church’s preference for social-welfare policies identical to Democrats and other liberals, under the guise of leftist-style Social Justice. According toCatholicVote.org, Rick Santorum has been active in many such socialistic legislative actions, often in open cooperation with the liberals:

almost every time a serious piece of antipoverty legislation surfaces in Congress, Rick Santorum is there playing a leadership role.

In the mid-1990s, he was a floor manager for welfare reform, the most successful piece of domestic legislation of the past 10 years. He then helped found the Renewal Alliance to help charitable groups with funding and parents with flextime legislation.

More recently, he has pushed through a stream of legislation to help the underprivileged, often with Democratic partners.

In addition, he’s issued a torrent of proposals, many of which have become law: efforts to fight tuberculosis; to provide assistance to orphans and vulnerable children in developing countries; to provide housing for people with AIDS; to increase funding for Social Services Block Grants and organizations like Healthy Start and the Children’s Aid Society; to finance community health centers; to combat genocide in Sudan.

I could fill this column, if not this entire page, with a list of ideas, proposals and laws Santorum has poured out over the past dozen years. It’s hard to think of another politician who has been so active and so productive on these issues.

“So go Rick, go,” says CatholicVote.org, ”This American Papist is pulling for you.”

Evangelicals drawn to Santorum after leaving Bachmann’s dwindling campaign should know what they’re getting into. It’s not evangelicalism; it’s liberalism and Social Justice no better than Obama, really.

And if you think Paul has a foreign policy problem, just imagine how complicated it gets when a man’s highest Spiritual allegiance is to the Vatican and not to the American people.

It’s one thing to say “God d**n America. It’s even worse, however, to damn it anyway while praising it in the name of God.

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TSB· 1 day ago

Oh well, you know Protestants should really listen to what this guy has to say. Jesus said that if we sin, we should go tell an appointed man of God and he will tell us how and what to pray so we can be forgiven. He also said we should have lots of graven images of Mary and angels and of course, all the saints. Then he said we should call the priests "Father". We should also burn incense and learn specific prayers to God and everyone else just mentioned. Oh wait....NO HE DIDN'T!!!!!
Look, nothing against Catholics as people, but the Church has a long, proud history of political corruption and we would do well to stay away from that mess. Christian values need to play an important role in how we conduct ourselves, but no particular religion should be allowed to creep in. I feel as if this priest thinks that if Santorum got in office, the Church could get its foot in the door.
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Bob K· 1 day ago

The idea that Roman Catholics are THE church is so ironic/comical because of what the apostle Paul wrote to them, the church at Rome: "...And if some of he branches were broken off, and you (church at Rome), being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and became a sharer of the root and the fatness of the olive tree with them, do not boast against the branches. But if you boast, it is not you that bears the root, but the root bears you. You will say then, the branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in. Well, because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. DO NOT BE HIGH-MINDED, BUT FEAR. FOR IF GOD DID NOT SPARE THE NATURAL BRANCHES, FEAR LEST HE ALSO MAY NOT SPARE YOU EITHER." Romans 11:17-21
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Bob K· 1 day ago

better add this perspective: http://networkedblogs.com/se0w3
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So Christians are going to be so pure in their religion that they reject Romney for Mormanism, Santorum and Grinch for Roman Catholicism, and Perry and BachWOmann for being evangelical Protestants. I can tell you that whatever difference the Pope reads in his Bible or the millions of evangelicals reads in their Bibles is minicule compared to the Jews and Muslims who do not believe in Christ at all.

The evangelical Protestants are the worst. They want to launch a holy war against Catholic Christians as much as against Muslims, while at the same time having an unexplained adulterous affair with "left behind" Jewish sinners who live the worst sin of all time - the rejection of Christ the Messiah.

Ron Paul is the smartest candidate of all. He lives Chrstian principles while being guided in his politics by the Constitution.
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This article by Joel McDurmon is nothing but a political hit piece parading as commentary. And this is coming from a Southern Baptist! What you have done here is smear every Catholic on the planet for political gain. I think it's despicable trying to tie Rick Santorum directly to the Pope! Unless you can prove that he attended mass every week for the last twenty years at the Vatican, your comparison to Obama and Jeremiah Wright is completely out of order.

What you've done here is no different than saying that ALL priests are homosexual pedophiles!

You OBVIOUSLY don't like Santorum, so why don't you just come out and TELL us who to vote for...and save us all the trouble of actually thinking for ourselves?

Oh, wait! You DID!!! Ron Paul. I should have known.

Joel...your mouth ain't no prayer book. And Ron Paul is a bigger idiot than you are.
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EHeassler, USN-Ret.· 4 hours ago

I consider this an attempt to show a parallel between Santorum and Jeremiah Wright. It's hogwash and should just be considered as a patently transparent hit-job on Santorum, the Pope, and the teachings of the Catholic Church. As far as I'm concerned, the author has his politically biased secular head up his secular b-tt.

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"...succession of popes who dated back to St Peter."

Rick doesn't know his church history too well, and McDurmon isn't up on Ron Paul's foreign policy, which is as perfect and righteous as a foreign policy ever has been.
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I can agree with Rick Santorum's pastor, as opposed to Pres. Barack Obama's Rev. Wright, who was completely WRONG. It's no wonder Obama is a lost soul, who has a problem with being our moral leader.
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Babylonandon· 4 hours ago

Ummmm, for those who have forgotten history .... one of the things the Demoncraps WENT AFTER SANTORUM FOR was his outspoken support of creationism. Don't be a tool.

I've never heard Santorum support global warming - he's a drill here, drill now guy.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/25/rick-san...

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shearwater· 3 hours ago

Christians are those who determine in their hearts that they will obey and follow Jesus . . . what religion or sect they follow should be filtered through how faithful that sect is in following the Bible and its teachings. From all the scholarship that has been done, the Bible is the clear blueprint for the church and the only standard by which a church or sect can be judged. The Roman Catholic Church beforeVatican 2 subscribed to the notion that no catholic layman can properly understand the Bible and therefore should not attempt to live by it without the assistance of a priest. According to the Bible; 1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
1 Timothy 2:4-6 (in Context) 1 Timothy 2. That one verse destroys the notion that a pope, minister or priest can mediate between God and man. Every man is his own priest before God through Christ.
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Alan· 3 hours ago

The "only true church" as this deluded one says. The same "true church" that covers up homosexual and child molesting so-called "priests." The same "true chruch" which has turned tabernacles into bingo parlors. The same "true church" that calls everyone in their body that wears a pointed hat "father." As JESUS said "call NO man on earth father, for you have only one True Father and HE is in Heaven." Matthew 23:9 This same "true church" who bows down to idols, prays to Mary and other so-called "saints" as deity. The same "true church" which is rampant with "religious" rituals. The same "true church" that JESUS warned us about. "Beware the religious." JESUS Hates "religion", but loves Relationship. Who unto those in that day when they stand in front of the One True Righteous Judge JESUS and HE says to them, "Away from me, I never knew you."
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Freedom· 3 hours ago

We should be naive if to expect anything else from a papist.They have a lot more in common with the eastern orthodox church when comes to the corruption or being bed fellows with the political establishment.
Christ established the Catholic Church who is the God/Man while protestant churches were invented by men such as King Henry VIII, Martin Luther, John Calvin, Joseph Smith so they lack sacraments that bring the grace of God, eternal life.
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Sam· 3 hours ago

I can't fault the man for having a spiritual allegiance higher than the American people; if I were in office, I would too. My allegiance is to Jesus Christ alone. I can fault Santorum, though, for having an allegiance to a false religion, if in fact he does. I'm sorry, but if he is really a devout Roman Catholic who holds to the doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church, as is claimed about him, then he's not a follower of Jesus Christ. While there are true believers to be found inside the walls of the Catholic church (because of their own personal differences with key elements of RC doctrine), the doctrine of Roman Catholicism is damnable heresy, as I understand it. Anyone who doesn't have faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ ALONE for salvation isn't saved. Anyway, according to comments Santorum made in one of the Republican debates, the only way his religion would impact his actions as President is the moral and ethical aspect of it. If I remember correctly, he maintained that when considering a candidate's worthiness for public office, one's religion didn't matter as long as his morals were in place.
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Dick Cain· 3 hours ago

I am getting tired of reading all the negative commentary on every single candidate on this site except for their guy, Ron Paul. I flirted with the whole idea of Libetarian but over time have discovered it is as flawed as everyone else's path to the presidency. Why not just let each American decide what they choose to believe and what they feel is important rather than "convince them" by lies and exaggerations.
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Jerry· 3 hours ago

Let's unPC this so called piece of commentary and call it what it is-trash! I wonder if the author actually works for Axelrod. I'm not Roman Catholic nor a Santorum follower, but can smell stench when it eminates from the computer. I do wish to thank Mr. McDorum for providing reading material for my dog who is being house trained. I also would like to thank the media for proving thier quality to me again.
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Mary M· 2 hours ago

I am very disappointed in this thinly veiled Catholic hit piece by an organization that I trusted to go above the fray of intra-Christian squabbling and indeed which has been a victim of such squabbling by others. I was raised Roman Catholic and receive a superior education at Roman Catholic elementary and secondary schools. My Roman Catholic foundation helped me endure graduate school at the most uber liberal institution in the country (UC Berkeley) without losing my faith. I am now part of a conservative Presbyterian church, but have not bought into the "heresy" theory against Catholicism. I recent spent 10 days in Rome with about 400 devout Roman Catholics and can honestly say that there was more grace and more of the presence of the Holy Spirit there than in the large evangelical organization I work for, or in these kinds of comments. There are many in the Catholic church, as in the evangelical churches who have led people astray because ALL of us are flawed people in need of a Savior. I'm sorry to see this kind of un-Christian commentary from this organization. It gives me pause about further support.
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Oh come one - the RCC has been claiming Roman papal primacy since the beginning of their Western dominion. Its how they propagate their power, never mind that Peter never set foot in Rome.

The evolution thing is weird, though. Makes sense, though, as it is based on the same circular reasoning as the papal primacy argument.

But that organization is much more diverse and dysfunctional than most realize. Ascribing to papal beliefs is hardly a prerequisite, and I'm sure the RCC would be tickled pink if one of those two became president.
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Jack Hotchkiss· less than 1 minute ago

Did any of you folks ever hear these words? "Divide and Conquer." Come on folks they are trying to play us, pit us one against the other. Let us show them how smart we are not how stupid we are.

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