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Gun registry admits total failure after $2.7 billion

by Joel McDurmon on Feb 21, 2012

John R. Lott and Gary Mauser report on a national gun registry experiment in Canada in which the government has finally admitted totalfailure after blowing $2.7 billion:

Despite spending a whopping $2.7 billion on creating and running a long-gun registry, Canadians never reaped any benefits from the project. The legislation to end the program finally passed the Parliament on Wednesday. Even though the country started registering long guns in 1998, the registry never solved a single murder. Instead it has been an enormous waste of police officers’ time, diverting their efforts from patrolling Canadian streets and doing traditional policing activities. . . .

The statistics are revealing: out of 4,257 homicides from 2003 to 2009, 1,314 were carried out with firearms. In fewer than 10 percent of these cases was the gun even registered, and in only 62 of these registered instances was the gun actually registered to the person committing the crime. Lott and Mauser comment,

To repeat, during these seven years, there were only 62 cases — nine a year — where it was even conceivable that registration made a difference.

Most importantly, they add,

But apparently, the registry was not important even in those cases. The Royal Canadian Mounted Police and the Chiefs of Police have not yet provided a single example in which tracing was of more than peripheral importance in solving a case.

The authors get it wrong, however, when it comes to solutions:

The problem isn’t just that the $2.7 billion spent on registration over 17 years has produced no arrests, it is that the money could have been used to put more police on the street or pay for more health care or cut taxes. An extra $160 million a year pays for a lot of police or doctors or teachers.

Or, you could stop the spending altogether and shrink the size and scope of the State. One reason governments grow tyrannical and eventually push for greater gun control is that we keep feeding the State and demanding more social problems to be solved by it. Gun rights exist by definition as a last-resort defense against tyranny—and thus gun rights represent the preservation of a small State that fears the citizenry and honors individual rights. You negate this very principle when you demand more State-funded police and social services.

The Welfare and Warfare States are two sides of the same coin. Until conservatives understand this and discipline themselves accordingly, gun control advocates will always have ready access to the very infrastructure they need to advance their agenda: a strong police force, a strong agency of propaganda (“education”), and a strong facade of its necessary existence (benefits like education, health care, safety, etc.). The goal is to minimize the programs permanently and not use the money for something else. Use the money to pay down debts and restore freedom once again.

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I think the most logical question before passing such a law would be - why would a criminal - a murderous criminal - abide by the law before he/she goes and kills somebody by registering the gun? You would think that the program would be considered a failure about around - oh, I don't know - a million or two. At least revise it or take a look at it.
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Darrell Russell· 5 hours ago

Tracking long guns or any gun might have been Canada's intent, but that is not the case in the United States. It will be to know where the guns are and make it easier to come and get them.
Right on Canada for actually stopping hitting your head against a wall !!!
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Walter· 5 hours ago

Oh I'm sure the US will spend more than that and fail !! They are attacking the 2 nd amendment everyday !!!
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Mannafeast· 5 hours ago

BUT the US will still push for regestration here. Check this out for complicity:
Months ago, Boehner prevented Darrell Issa filing a charge of perjury against Holder even after documents proved the Attorney General’s May 4th House testimony concerning the date of his first “acquaintance” with Fast and Furious to be an outright lie. And now the weepy Speaker will OFFICIALLY let the most corrupt Department of Justice head in the nation’s history off the hook for complicity in the Regime’s murderous scheme to savage the 2nd Amendment rights of the American people. The terms of the betrayal John Boehner is currently putting together: The Committee will accept the scalps of [Lanny] Breuer and [Jason] Wienstein, DOJ will release enough of the (documents) to condemn them, claim cooperation (thus giving the appearance of recognizing congress’s oversight authority), and Holder will survive – looking like a “leader” for offering them up (along with a few lower level ATF and DOJ folk).
"Constitutionalists argue that that Second Amendment did not grant a new right but simply acknowledged an existing right. Although this assertion contains some truth, it does not alter jurisdictional overtones.... The framers could have acknowledged the Scriptures as the foundation for this right, which would have alleviated any possibility of edicts prohibiting concealed weapons. They could have but they did not. Instead, they left it to Congress to implement such firearms restrictions as we have today.

"If the responsibility to keep and bear arms is God-given, no one except Yahweh Himself has the right to withdraw it. If you are a Christian3 (and particularly if you are the head of your home), you were given the responsibility to keep and bear arms long before the United States Constitution was framed or ratified:

'Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand; to execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people; to bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron; to execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye Yah.' (Psalm 149:6-9)"

For more, see "Firearms: Scripturally Defended" at http://www.missiontoisrael.org/firearm-right.php.

We are at the very beginning of what perhaps is the most significant paradigm shift in America's history (besides perhaps the 17th-century Puritans establishing their Colonial governments upon Yahweh's law). America is beginning to recognize her national idol that like Gideon of old must be repented of before we can regain Christian dominion of our nation. Our darkest hour will prove to be our brightest moment. I offer as proof a radio interview Larry Pratt, Executive Director of Gun Owners of America conducted with me on December 31, 2011. You can listen to or download it from Gun Owner's of America's website at http://irnusaradio.com/our-programs/gunowners-new.... See the seventh entry from the top, entitled "Ted Weiland: Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution."
I could have saved them about $1bil if they'd just paid me to tell them what we already know. Gun registration WILL NEVER work. Criminals don't abide by the law already. They wouldn't register the guns they have in their posession now.
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Michael· 4 hours ago

Well put, Joel. Why do we EVER want to fix a government debacle with MORE GOVERNMENT?
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Icta Whoosis· 4 hours ago

it wasnt ever about being solve a crime, it was about knowing what every law abiding person had so it could be taken away. Gun control has never been about guns, its always been about CONTROL
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Wayne· 4 hours ago

If you want gun control, just look to merry old England. Gun control didn't stop criminals from robbing and killing. When it became harder to obtain a gun the perps started using knives. Then the government thought knives should not have a point but a rounded end. Think that will stop the perps??? Those people have no protection at all. If they hurt a criminal they are thrown in jail and the criminal is treated as a victem.
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Michael Paul Tuuri· 4 hours ago

All well and good...I'm for arming everyone. Unfortunately, this nation is not a Christian nation, whatever that is. It was the best thing going in this category when it started, but it was tainted at the outset with not a few Enlightenment ideas. While this nation retains its Christian form to some degree, the substance is not Christian. Even most of the the so-called Christians in this nation are Statists, looking not to eliminate big government, but to shape it to their own desires, or maybe just put up with it until Jesus raptures their lazy butts out. People need to see the State as the hand of God, sent to chastise them and discipline them for their apostate spirit. Like faithless Israel, America has turned into a people who feel that God's grace only applies to them and that they deserve it. So I, like you, will continue to fight for our "rights" under this decadent structure, but the only hope is reformation of the atavistic church and revival for the future, which will not be informed by the Constitution, as good as document as it is.
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Gregg Weber· 3 hours ago

I am not writing of some cheap zip gun, nor a Liberator pistol. Can someone make a pistol or long arm out of "normal" things? Truck half-shaft for the barrel, screwdriver for the firing pin, foam filled PCV pipe for the stock? Then those items become firearm parts? It can probably be done by anyone with some skill but to keep it "legal" and not get into trouble someone with a lisence would have to do it.
Is there some gun range that has some event for these things, like pumpkin chunkin?
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Gregg Weber· 3 hours ago

skill and/or ingenuity
It's still a total nanny state here in Canada, scrapping the long gun registry changes almost nothing. It's like saying you don't need to have a license plate on a car you bought and keep in your barn. We (Canadians) still have to register all handguns, and we have to have a license to buy OR EVEN POSSESS any kind of firearm (of the list of those allowed). If we let our license expire and we own guns, we become criminals. We can't buy any firearm for the purpose of self-defense. Lastly, there is no concealed carry anywhere in Canada, other than a very small number. Even our police officers can't carry when off duty.


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